Wednesday, March 12, 2008

Follow the Sourdough - Day 8: We Bake Bread…Finally!

Here it is, the culmination of a week's worth of work and play. The video is pretty self-explanatory, so there is no need for any long explanations of what you're about to see. I will mention that near the end of the clip, I joke that your sourdough probably didn’t work. This should not be taken as any lack of confidence I have in your ability to follow directions, or your lack of cooking skills. It's from the simple fact that the first time you try to make sourdough, it doesn't come out as well, as the 10th time, if it comes out at all.

The first batch of starter I ever tried looked fine, and yet the sponge sat there stubbornly refusing to grow. Undaunted, I started over and my second batch worked perfectly, and I've been successful ever since. I hope this series of posts and videos has, at the very least, inspired you to give it a try (or two), and experience the joy and taste of homemade sourdough bread. Enjoy!


Regarding your leftover sponge:


In yesterday's post I mentioned to refrigerate the leftover sponge. Now that you have a living, growing sourdough, you can use this to make unlimited batches of new sponge. Simply repeat the feeding step we did each day at the beginning of the series, but you only need to do this once a week.

When you are ready to make bread, let this come to room temp, and repeat the sponge making step. After you use the 2 cups to make the sponge, store the leftovers and so on, and so on. Some bakeries claim to have starters that are decades old. I poke a pin hole in the plastic lid I use to store it, since it produces carbon-dioxide and you don't need any explosions in the fridge. While it's being stored, any dark liquid that forms on your starter (called hooch) can be stirred in or poured off.




37 comments:

hkfreak said...

Can we flick water or brush it on before the "LAST RISE"?. I no have squirt water thing.

Chef John said...

yes, a light brushing would be fine.

Jeff said...

Great looking loaf! This was the first time I've seen starting in a cold oven-great technique.

What was the crumb structure like?

Did your crust shatter?

Chef John said...

Crumb "matrix" was nice. The crust was good, didnt "shatter" though lol,I think that's tough to achieve at home. I'm an average baker at best, but I was very happy with the results.

Connie said...

Mine was laying there looking like a nothingness blog of pancake mix so today I put a 1/4 tsp of yeast and a splash of honey and stirred it up. It is now happy and looking good. I am going to try using it tomorrow to make bread. I think it was starving. I know I cheated but it looked really sad. I will write about how it came out on my blog and put up a picture of it. I bet yours tasted good. It looks beautiful.

Anonymous said...

What does this actually taste like? Is it sour? Is it actually worth the effort to make?

Chef John said...

You should taste some, every major grocery store sells a sourdough. I can't tell if it's worth the effort for you. It is for me.

Chef John said...

cheating is always encouraged by chefs!

Anonymous said...

Oh wow. From now on, I'll eat my sourdough with respect, knowing that making it takes a week! Thanks for the info chef!

Anonymous said...

It's the loooongest recipe ever :)
Thanks chef John.

mug said...

Chef?
How can you do this to us? so many days of anticipation, & in the end we don't see you cutting in to this beauty & see her crumb etc.????

Anonymous said...

yeah I was hoping for that too, maybe put some peanut butter on it too :) lol :)

PrimeBrit said...

I love this site Chef. Tonight we had the Chicken Paramesan Bake 'again!' It's delicious. A week to make bread though? I will never have time for it, will buy it from the store, and I am sad because yours looks so good. :(

Prime

Connie said...

I made it today. It tastes so good. I like how the water spray makes the crust shiny and crisp.
I have a picture of my loaves on my blog. Thanks for the wonderful instruction.

Jairus said...

hey good job on that little foodwishes trailer chef! it was rather disturbing but in a gee that beating heart shaped peice of dough looks oddly succulent! kind of way.

Chef John said...

Yes, I should have done a "money shot" of the knife going through the crusty loaf! I was thinking about it, but I didn't feel like waiting for it to cool, and wanted to get the editing started. I'm doing another loaf for About.com, so I will post some sliced shots!

Tracy said...

I followed your directions and my starter worked perfect (I even cheated with a little yeast at the end just to make sure it would work). My bread came out looking beautiful on the ouside but doughy/dense (sp) on the inside (I only cooked it for 33 min because it was looking so dark). So I made it again, I made it into 2 smaller loaves (I even let it rise overnight thinking maybe I hadn't let the other one rise enough) and I had the same problem. I took it out of the oven at 40 min this time and it was still doughy and dense inside so I cooked it for an additional 7 min. So then the outside was hard as a rock and the inside was as stated before. Can you please tell me what I am doing wrong? The starter is foamy and starts to produce bubbles as soon as new flour/water is added, so I know my yeast is fine. It smells right and it looks right.

Thanks for any help you can give me.

Chef John said...

It sounds like the loaf wasn't proofed long enough. Once you are sure your dough has at least doubled in size, and then you form the loaf, the loaf itself has to almost double in size. Also, even if the outside is getting dark you have to make sure it cooks long enough. Also this homemade sourdough will not have huge bubbles like store bought. Keep playing! Also, your dough may have too much flour. A stickier, wetter dough will make a less dense texture.

Delma said...

I've been looking for an authentic sourdough starter and bread recipe and I think this is it! I'm on Day 3 and even though I'm impatient to have the bread, I am following the directions. Thanks for the info and the videos. They help so much.

Anonymous said...

i am up to the step where the dough needs to sit before going into the oven. From your video, your dough seems to be a manageable mass but my dough is quite sticky & wet and unmanageable. I tried shaping it into a boule, it is now resting. It is looking like a flat blob. This is the 3rd sourdough have had tried to make this wk to no avail. The 1st two i tried the no knead method and results were the same. I am just afraid the same has happened.

My sponge was bubbly. I needed for 15 min. The dough doubled with those nice stringy strands when i turned it out. I am just afraid that this time, it is once again a disappointing wet blob as usual.

Any tips/help is much appreciated.
thanks

Chef John said...

Cut it in half. Shape half and just let it rise overnight and then bake what ever you get.

Take the other half right now, throw a bunch of flour on the board, roll it thin, and make the best pizza you ever tasted!

BTW, I've never had any luck with no knead. Good luck. Enjoy the sourdough pizza!

Moi The Fuss said...

Hi! I've been looking into sourdough recipes since being told I've got intolerances (NOT allergies) to all grains bar Barley and Rye, though I'm ok with corn rice and potato. I'm also off bakers and brewer's yeast but told to try sourdough. The trick of course is that I'll have to make my own. Do you have any suggestions or advice on where to start? Do you have any other recipes that this starter would work with and/or is it possible to substitute the starter for yeast in "normal" bread or dough recipes? Thank you.

Chef John said...

start with day 1 and make a starter. you can use it in any bread recipe. there is this one, and tons online

A Parsons said...

what other things can you use in place of the corn meal?

Chef John said...

nothing

Anonymous said...

ok, this is my second batch at day 5, the 1st got thrown out due to I went into hospital for 11 days and said I can try again when I am home...now it is day 5 again,,,what do I do on day 6 ? then day 7 I sould make my bread...I can't hardly wait. I hope I get the sponge affect in about 10 hrs from now...this time I made a 2nd batch from the half I was to throw away...just to put in fridge for the next time...by the way do I refridge it before I make the sponge or after?
Appreciate your help.

Ginny said...

I can't find the videos for the rest of the sourdough bread making. Find only day 1 and day 8.
Ginny

Chef John said...

they are all there... use the search box, or bread category

Aaron De La Torre said...

Hi Chef.

The question was asked in October last year as to whether it is better to refrigerate the starter or the sponge but the answer was never given. I started my first day today and plan to keep the one starter to develop my own 'house flavour' to my sourdough (and save a lot of work to make another starter from scratch).

Could you please provide your thoughts so that I can make the best sourdough I can.

Thanks for the information you have provided.

Aaron

Chef John said...

leftover starter/sponge is refrigerated, but when you make it from scratch it stay out at room temp

Yule Tree said...

Hi Chef John,

I just made the bread, and it worked out great! I ended up shaping it and baking it inside the Griswold Dutch oven, I guess because I am leery about handling during the shaping process.

Thanks for your videos. I love your voice, and your deadpan humor. (Though, no doubt, you are quite "ripped.")

This was my first venture outside the bread machine. I figure, since I live in San Francisco, might as well make sourdough. (The starter developed on schedule, no mystery there.)

One question - do you let the dough "rest" before the kneading? Is that important?

Thanks,
Yule

Chef John said...

thanks! u can knead any time

Aaron De La Torre said...

Hi Chef. Me again. I have just used my starter and I am really surprised at how active it is.

I have made the dough, kneaded it (used the mix master with dough hooks for the messy first 5 minutes and finished off by hand, worked great) and am now letting it rise to double it's size. Going to have to leave it overnight tonight and will get back to it first thing tomorrow morning... Didn't you say something about baking at 3 am??? I'm sure I can leave it until I get up (might have to get up when the wife feeds the baby at 4, then I might be ready to bake when I get up later). It sure does take some time to make this but hopefully it will be well worth it.

Thanks for all the information. It is a great resource. Really liking your Vlog.

Aaron

Aaron De La Torre said...

DELICIOUS. Cannot believe how well that turned out. This is the first bread I have ever baked and I was very happy with the results. Definitely going to have to get the timing better so I don't have to get up so damn early.

Aaron

Chef John said...

congrats!!

Apprentice K said...

Hi Chef. Found your vid on Youtube and the bread looks great! To make the sourdough, may I know what water did you use? Is tap water ok or I have to use mineral water that is free of chlorine/flourine? Also, do I have to sterilise the container?

Thanks!

Chef John said...

i used regular tap water and just washed the container.